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Broeder Klappy glad to hear from you. Hope things have been well. Ubunto? I still never figured out how to install Ubunto. How can one use an operating system that is impossible to install. What is the trick? | |||
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Oh my. Wait a minute. This one will get a little complicated - and involve a lot of tech-speak, terminal-acrobatics and dirty backdoor-hacking. So basically you insert the desktop CD, - which you can download here for sensible architectures: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/port...eases/10.04/release/ and for, well, standard-arcitectures: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/current/ boot from it by pressing and holding down 'c' while powering up your computer - that'll give you a fully functional Ubuntu system - and then you duble-click the installer icon on the desktop and follow the instructions. And you're done.This message has been edited. Last edited by: klapauzius, | |||
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| THALO.net divinity |
Okay what I think happened last time was I burned the cd using Toast. This time I used Disk Utility which made a proper disk image. So it worked. Ubuntu is installed on a Dual 1.25Ghz G4 MDD machine. Ummm...Klappy I see the appeal it is free and all with free applications etc but the UI is totally buggy. I can not move windows around in it. I can not close them either. I was trying to change preferences were some boxes opened that wouldn't let me do anything then they wouldn't go away. Remaining as empty white boxes. That is about as far as I got so far. Ubuntu is a good effort. I can not see it as being ready for prime time though. | |||
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Try Haiku instead. Right now it works a lot less good than ubuntu, honestly its a work-in-progress and pretty useless, but when it moves on it could be a blast. I am not sure if it works on PPC. I tried to create a usb-bootable stick with Haiku on it, but failed. They still have problems with the Macbook Pro. :-) | |||
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Bummer ! But not a big problem, i guess. Two questions: 1. Did the GUI work all right when you were booted from the live cd ? 2. What video card are you using ? | |||
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Sounds like my longstanding issue with OpenSource stuff. You get what you pay for. These things are ALWAYS gonna be works in progress. That's their nature. There is nothing wrong with that, as long as what you're doing isn't anything mission critical. I mean holy crap, I LOVE free shit. And I can certainly recognize good efforts and talent and all that. But the OpenSource programmers are doing things for their own benefits, and to climb their own intellectual Everests. They are not sitting there trying to make a commercial product that users are going to be able to have any significant investment in. Think about it: no matter what your problem, if you complain, you always run the risk of getting the response: "hey, it was friggin' FREE! What do you want? I have a day job." From the programmers. The problem with OS X, as I said years ago, is that it's been hatched by this very world. Apple simply glommed up a bunch of free stuff and adapted it. They may field the complaints, they may fix a few things... but their bedrock Operating system is based on the toil of geek elite people who work for things like bragging rights or who honestly love watching spinning gears. I'd prefer seeing these guys get paid to produce things that actually perform. The Ubuntu guys may have an OS which is not a testament to the basic DISDAIN of GUIs by the geek elites, but they aren't going to have the resources and support that a commercial software company is gonna have. And that means you are always at their mercy. One of the things I object to these days is that we are at the mercy of software companies, who really don't have to do anything but experiment on us Guinea Pigs. | |||
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I respectfully disagree completely. Linux is a commercial OS today. IBM mainframes and blades run Linux. Novell bought Suse Linux and bases its strategy on it. Android (you know, that iPhone killer) is a Linux derivative. And so on. As for the problem with the dual G4, i mean come on, this machine is more than 15 years old and has been axed support-wise by Apple like 10 years ago. If you can get a top-modern OS like Linux running on it with a little tweaking for free, that's just great. | |||
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| THALO.net divinity |
Actually the MDD G4 Dual 1.25Ghz was produced in 2003 or 2004. So it is 6 or 7 years old. I didn't really run Ubuntu from the cd. Once it started up I just installed it onto the machine. I think there is a 64mb ATI card in it. Not sure the exact card. Every 5 minutes I have to log back into Ubuntu. I couldn't find were to turn that off. | |||
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Now you've lost me. There's no way i know of to install Ubuntu from the Desktop CD other than to boot from it and run the installer within the running system. Or did you use the alternate CD ? That's what the desktop CD is for, to make sure your system can run Ubuntu, let the installer check the hardware, partition the hard drives (the installer checks whether there are other systems - e.g. OS X - already installed and configures the boot-loader accordingly) and install the system. Maybe you should just install it this way and follow the instructions the installer gives you, this could solve your problems. Just follow the instructions given here http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download Starting with Step 3 Anyway, if you did not have the gui problems during installation then it's definitely a wrong configuration of your graphics card. Run the hardware-assistant-application in the System - Administration - Hardware Drivers menu and see what card it detects. Alternatively, open a terminal, type sudo lshw -short sudo lshw -C display and check the output. Then reconfigure the X-Windows-Server like described in the link below http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/u...-system-xorg-server/This message has been edited. Last edited by: klapauzius, | |||
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| THALO.net divinity |
Klappy don't be lost as I said I didn't really run it from the cd. Once ubuntu started up from the cd I just installed it so I didn't have to use the cd after that. I started up ubuntu again. It looks like the window problems went away. So I skipped over all those steps you listed. What is up with all the passwords. When it starts up it take several minutes to put in the password change the unix password then repeat three or four times then it finally logs in. I can not connect to the internet. It should be a simple task I am using a router so all ubuntu has to do is connect automatically using DHCP. Not happening. When I try to apply the settings in the Network Preferences more requests for passwords to "authenticate". No password I have used will "authenticate" past this point. Should I even connect to the internet? After all I am putting a lot of faith in the 700mb ubuntu download that there isn't any malicious code waiting for commands. | |||
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Great. As we say in old europe: Every boot does good.
The installer should have asked you for a password. Do you log in with the account you created during installation ? Check your account settings with System - Administration - Users and groups. A quick fix would be to create another account in System - Administration - Users and groups, give it admin privileges and log in with it. Several minutes is definitely wrong, check whether you have a multi-processor-aware kernel by typing "uname -a" in a terminal. the kernel should have "smp" in its name. If it hasn't, install a smp kernel with Synaptic (System - Administration - Synaptic)
Right-Click on the icon to the left of the clock applet (in the right-hand corner of the menu bar), these are the network settings. I guess the problems will go away once you solved the password problem.
See, that's the beauty of open source. Any malicious code would be open for anyone to read and thousands of developers using and developing for Ubuntu wouldn't overlook malicious code. There's no safer way to connect to the internet than Linux running on a completely exotic hardware like a powerpc Mac  | |||
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