All my messages will be going to a queue list and will have
to wait for the moderators' 'approval' before being posted to the Mac forum.
Apparently they too don't like my opinions
and confrontational style clearly because I'm not in OS X's side. Others are as confrontational and opinionated
as I am but it's OK with the mods at the MacAch because those are always trashing OS 9 and salivating over Aqua, the Unix
"underpinnings", the amazing speed (I swear!!!) and the rest of the mess Apple created with this NeXT monster.
This one
was the one I was interested in when I read the mod's post asking others not to call for my opinion on the subject because
I was being temporarily banned. I don't get it.
Listen, I don't
know what you said to get them all hot and bothered by I most certainly do get it. You can't have a Mickey Mouse Club
if one of the mice says "I ain't wearin' that stupid fuckin' hat."
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LMAO. Oh, I see you guys exchanged f-bombs. Okay, let me be honest. You're not likely to be drafted by the State Department
anytime soon. But one thing X-critics need to understand, at least when they're outside thalo-land, is that most Mac forums
are populated by advocates or early adopters. They want OS X to work. That's generally a given, I think. So when you
or anyone else comes barging in there, no matter your tone, it's just not what they're looking for.
But here's the
dark side: You're also the guy waving the blue pill in their faces. You threaten to upset the positive vibes (aka Crap Settling)
that they've surrounded the product with. We all do it. It's human nature. Once you buy something with your hard-earned money
you tend to want to hear positive things about it. I remember reading in some marketing magazine that most of the car ads
you see on TV aren't meant to sell a car to those who are looking for one. They're meant to reinforce a positive image in
those who have already bought, to reinforce the idea that they've made a smart choice. You get customer satisfaction that
way (repeat business, less complaints) and you get better word-of-mouth. So when you barge in there disparaging OS X you're
threatening their entire ego because you're questioning their taste, intelligence, wisdom, etc.
I doubt the moderators
know this. Forget the f-bombs. Let's just imagine you used absolutely polite, but forceful, language. Because of the reaction
from the other forum members to you, you would still be seen as being a disruptor. Doesn't matter who f-bombs first – or at
all. It doesn't matter if you're even super-duper polite because the moderators are not measuring language or tone objectively.
They're ascribing nastiness to the posts because they ascribe an evil intent to them. You can (and I have before) analyze
the language of those pro and con OS X and see who is being nastier. I'll guaran-damn-tee you that you'll be hard pressed
to see a difference. But because challenging people in there beliefs is considered some sort of violent act in itself you'll
come out on the short end of the moderator judgment stick almost every time. Other forum members, I think, intuitively know
this. They'll bait you. They will intentionally raise the decibel level just so it reflects on your presence there.
Posts: 17094 | Location: The Left Coast | Registered: Sun May 04 2003
You nailed it right in the head as always my friend.
What gets me is that anyone bashing OS 9 and its supporters are
free to post whatever BS they like and nobody calls them "trolls" or whatever gay word they use when somebody touches their
X sensibility.
mAx, you were wooooonderful in those posts. I start wearing my bannings as a badge of honor, especially when pitted against
assholes, Nazis, liars, and closeted Jobs submissives. So don't sweat it.
I actually had one blind loyalist follow
me from Apple Discussions to MFI. He and another of his cronies were insanely obsessed with me and every one of my OS X trashings.
Ilene, in one of those rare moments where she actually read a complete post/thread, eventually caught on and banned him.
What gets me is that anyone bashing OS 9 and its supporters are free to post whatever BS they like and nobody calls them
"trolls" or whatever gay word they use when somebody touches their X sensibility.
Well, OS X has been given the
status somewhat of a "protected" minority. We could talk about how and why that happened but that's a different subject. But
really, it all falls on the laps of the moderators. They set the tone, they keep the peace, but I would suppose that they
have other concerns as well: traffic.
An online forum, at least in my experience, is hardly a democracy. They generally
are groupings of people with similar interests. There's a homogeny that develops. Like minds find each other. There are disagreements
for sure but there's much more that is agreed upon and these things are usually assumed or unspoken, always in the background.
I would think a forum moderator would be aware of the desires of their assembled posters. In the interest of traffic, of "keeping
the peace" and of keeping an existing place intact that has already attracted an audience, they will squelch. They don't HAVE
to play the role of protectors of the 1st Amendment because, first of all, it doesn't apply, and second, it may not be in
their interest to do so. So if there develops a preponderance of OS X lovers (and for reasons stated earlier) they will make
noise and the moderators will quite naturally respond to their noise.
Those forums aren't little experiments in fair
play. They're clubs. Bashing OS 9 in one of these clubs is sort of like doing the heil five. Yeah that's sort of smarmy.
Thaloville,
while quite homogenous itself at the moment, does attempt to be a mini democracy with all the cacophony and chaos that will
surely ensue. The unspoken agreement here is that disagreements are not only allowed but encouraged. Here the main subject
is the improvement of OS X but to do so it is necessary that ideas and free thinking themselves become central to that goal
since we don't have the advantage of rallying around a shipping product. Plus, I just think that's the way thalo is put together.
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I
also discovered -while trying to start a new topic linking to Snobby's thread on XP— that not only they banned me from the
MacAch where the incident occurred but also from the Battlefront.
I can't say, however, that I'm not psyched every time some other Forum
site brain farts or foot shoots and bans you guys. Their loss, THALO.net's gain. It's selfish of me, I know, but every control
freak and squelcher who tries to silence you, is like hooking my megaphone up to progressivley bigger and bigger batteries.
Part of what Max said at Arshole Technica: He needs to use Photoshop on a G4 450 that of course crawls in OS X. Like it
or not there's no better solution for someone that has to work on that machine than to boot it into OS 9 and make use of all
of its power on things other than to render Aqua and the rest of the overhead in OS X.
What, are you afraid that someone
may actually compare the huge performance difference between Photoshop in 9 vs. X and reach the same conclusions other pros
did?
The thing is, that’s a pretty good solution. Photoshop runs great in OS 9 and almost never crashes. What’s
the point after all: productivity or trying so hard to make OS X work that you burn your balls jumping through so many flaming
hoops? Jeez Louise those people are touchy.
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