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Oh Jesus where is The MightyQ when we need him.

How are you blaming Apple for a problem that is caused by Adobe?

I have attached an image as a tutorial so if this happens again you can find your way back to were the menu changes are by highlighting it in red so it is easier for you to find it.

It is under the Edit menu all the way at the bottom there that says Menus... It brings up the dialog box were you have to expand the triangle for Edit. Scroll down to Menus... Click were it says None under the Color column. I guess you could choose any one of those colors but I thought red would be a good color for Warning thalo Warning.



What I think you did was changed the Photoshop Defaults menus to the Set: What is New-CS3.
 
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Yeah, except I didn't TOUCH "Menus..." I have never colored menu item one in my life, never set the visibility on one. I certainly wouldn't have set anything to friggin' LAVENDAR if I did, you victim blamer you. I've used the keyboard shortcut editor, that's it. I have on occasion modified those, but that's the closest I've gotten to using that functionality.

After poking around and playing with the interface, it looks to me like the menus that in fact got highlighted were for "Web Design"... that's the only thing that matches the color and highlighted menus of the screenshot. But I didn't do it. Unless I'm a sleepwalker. So why would it suddenly show up as I'm having problems? That's crazy. Is there a way through VersionCue that I might be seeing somebody else's friggin' SETTINGS? I hope not. I'm going to ask people I work with if any of them have their menus set to "Web Design."

If you ask me, it's bolloxed prefs. Now my whole workspace customization has been wiped clean. None of my tweaks preserved.

I'm blaming Apple because that's the platform that these apps that are crashing and screwing up are running on.
 
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Maybe Nelson is doing it remotely.

If he does it again at least you know were to change it back without wiping out all your other settings.
 
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Today is no better.

I'm working on a web site in GoLive, suddenly all my fonts change to friggin' CHINESE. I kid you not. Text disappearing. Table spacing completely bolloxed. Sheer insanity. Ya think it's time to restart? Again?

Yeah, nice and fucking stable.
 
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Didn't you install Cocktail and some other tinker tool shareware crap. That will bollox up your preferences.

Adobe is the route of all evil.

But then it could be the Chinese government sabotaging US worker production with hidden trojans planted during the manufacturing process of the hardware components in China.
 
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Cocktail is just a general purpose utility for cleaning out caches and running cron scripts. It does one or two interface tweaks, but in general it does nothing that you can't do yourself in the terminal. Five mice from Macworld, every friggin' X-Man uses it. It's not like I hacked the system.

Adobe certainly didn't USED to be the root of all evil. Not until fucking OSX came along.

I can't even describe to you the feeling of trying to do the simplest thing in an app like GoLive, and having text disappear, then turn blue and CHINESE on you. It's just the most surreal experience.

I wonder if I should try running without Suitcase Fusion and see if that's the bung of this whole sordid mess.
 
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I have never installed Cocktail so that is every friggin' X-man minus one.

Extensis has a Leopald update for Fusion from late January it looks.
 
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Cocktail is just an app. And it has an uninstaller, which what the hell, I just did.

So now Suitcase Fusion is not running, and Cocktail is gone... all default settings restored. The only interface setting I did was choose the right/left dock style on the bottom, rather than the goofy 3-D one (where it's tough to see which apps are running).

Yeah, I was running the latest update for Fusion.

I also turned off Quickeys. I have nothing loading at startup.
 
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For Fusion I would say set up a folder with your fonts at the Root level of your boot drive. Direct Fusion to access them from there. I would not trust Fusion and it's vault system. Especially since you said that Fusion makes one huge file out of your fonts. How many fonts do you have. If you have thousands and thousands you do not need all of them all of the time. If they are really old like 80's and 90's this could be a problem too.

Plus in the Library:Font folder I would keep the fonts in there as limited as possible. Mine has 163 fonts total. 98 which are English fonts.

I tried to look around. I did not find any one having anything remotely similar as you going on. Does Dreamweaver behave the same way?

Are you sure you were not working on a Chinese language website?
 
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At the bottom of this page (where it says, "Installer done. Everything works fine" etc.) one can download an installer that replaces the crystal sausages with i-tunes-like ones. It also replaces, if one so chooses, the baby-blue Safari progress bar with an i-tunes-like one.

It's a hack but I've risked it. I have no confidence in Apple changing the scroll bars anytime soon.

The risk seems small to me; and anyway, I guess this is as good a time as any to start learning Chinese.
 
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That's certainly a tempting one, brother. If there's a hell for me, it's going to involve crystal sausages, and my ass getting reamed by them throughout eternity.

But I can't believe Apple isn't going to fix those stupid scrollbars on their own. They are the ugliest thing about the interface, dated (like the window widgets), and we're ready for an update. The iTunes scrollbars are much better designed.

I really can't risk hacking the system at this point, I've been having too many problems with flaky system and application behavior. It's really negatively impacting my work. This last week SUCKED like I can't even describe.

I'm trying to determine if the cause of my woes is Suitcase Fusion, Adobe CS3, OS X, or a combination of all 3.

The thing I have to keep reminding myself, is that whatever it is, it's something cured temporarily by a restart. That, I guarantee you, is the most important piece of information.
 
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Yes, one wonders how Apple can get away with failing to print a warning on Leopard's box, like the customary one you find in many novels: THIS IS A PIECE OF MAKE-BELIEVE. ANY RESEMBLANCE TO A REAL OPERATING SYSTEM IS WHOLLY COINCIDENTAL AND UNINTENTIONAL.

Sue their ass!
 
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But I can't believe Apple isn't going to fix those stupid scrollbars on their own. They are the ugliest thing about the interface, dated (like the window widgets), and we're ready for an update.

Yes. I may see if I can fit that on a vanity license plate. But, hey, give it another couple years and those crystal sausages could be back in style again.

Yabor, post a glorious sausage-free example if you get a chance. Geez, all this talk and I’ve got a hankerin’ for some sausages. Basically a sausage is concentrated salt and fat that is then stuffed into the washed-out bowel tube of some mammal. But, oh, nothing beat a good sausage unless you have to scroll with it.
 
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Oh yeah, we shouldn't even sully the name of MEAT sausages by calling the stupid crystal sausages, uh, sausages.

I actually have an attachment on my kitchen mixer that can output homemade sausages. It has a grinder with two different blades, a hopper, a pusher/plunger kind of thingie, and a sausage needle. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm dying to. I have to find the casings somewhere. I can get them online packed in salt, but I hear if you can find them fresh, you avoid all the rinsing and soaking. It's funny you said "hankerin'"... because you know what the unit of sausage casings is? A HANK.
 
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You make some. Pack it in dry ice, and I'll pay the shipping. They'll be a tremendous success. Yep. The Crystal Sausage Company, specializing in gormet low-fat or high-fat fare.
 
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I've always wondered, where do you even GET dry ice? I remember playing with the stuff around Halloween, and loved it, but some parent always procured it.
 
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Version Cue and the Adobe Startup Scripts.

The Startup scripts are essentially a way for Adobe to track what you are doing to get you to buy more stuff. Are they needed for the applications to function no.

Version Cue sounds great in theory. Can Adobe who can not even program individual applications to run properly be trusted to track jobs and files across multiple apps and multiple users seems highly unlikely.

This Adobe crap should be turned off.
 
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Yabor, post a glorious sausage-free example if you get a chance.

here you go. It doesn't get more glorious than this, eh?
 
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The smell of Nelson.

The other day in the supermarket I spotted this brand of cigarette tobacco. Naturally I've kissed my faithful Van Nelle goodbye: I've switched to NELSON.

Now NELSON is always with me, a source of pleasure and comfort. When the time comes, I want to be buried with NELSON by my side.
 
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May have found another piece of the puzzle with my Leopard issues. I noticed the keyboard thing happens much more WITH A DISK IN THE SUPERDRIVE. If I eject the disk, keyboard responsiveness improves. Not 100%, but noticeably. Once I've already started having problems, that is.

It gets really bad if there's DVD content playing, and the issue remains even if I quit the DVD player. But it seems that any disk, even a data disk... if it's in the drive, causes my keyboard to act squirrely, eventually. Odd, huh?

Whoops, POW, Suitcase just crashed. Even with the disk out.
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Process: Suitcase Fusion [201]
Path: /Applications/Extensis Suitcase Fusion/Suitcase Fusion.app/Contents/MacOS/Suitcase Fusion
Identifier: com.extensis.SuitcaseFusion
Version: 12.1.7 (12.1.7)
Code Type: PPC (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [81]

Date/Time: 2008-03-10 09:59:13.127 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915d8340 CFSetGetValue + 68
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915cd318 __CFRunLoopFindMode + 148
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915d63e0 CFSetApplyFunction + 284
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915cf2e8 CFRunLoopRemoveSource + 204
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915cf420 __CFRunLoopSourceRemoveFromRunLoop + 136
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x91570e70 CFBagApplyFunction + 144
6 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915cf614 CFRunLoopSourceInvalidate + 184
7 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915af5ac CFMachPortInvalidate + 436
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915afed0 __CFNotifyDeadMachPort + 320
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915af78c __CFMachPortPerform + 180
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x915d18bc CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2504
11 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x937da3a4 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 264
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x937da1c8 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 412
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x937da008 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 84
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x93ec23bc _DPSNextEvent + 580
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x93ec1d84 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 112
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x93ebba40 -[NSApplication run] + 736
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x93e8c444 NSApplicationMain + 440
18 com.extensis.SuitcaseFusion 0x000ee2b8 0x1000 + 971448
19 com.extensis.SuitcaseFusion 0x00002760 0x1000 + 5984
20 com.extensis.SuitcaseFusion 0x00002464 0x1000 + 5220
21 ??? 0x00000ffc 0 + 4092
 
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