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Panther Gallery of Death

Clearly one man's over-exaggeration. He has 2 Macs with Panther, one works great one is fucked (and he tinkers the hell out of it trying to downgrade).

He paints a rather stark image but one could easily set up a negative gallery pointed at any older classic Mac OS version.

Just thought you'd enjoy his negativism and thalo-ish outspokenness...

Hey, if it leads to Apple making better Macs, I'm all for it....
 
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That is funny Mighty.

Bill must be a member at thalo.net already. He must be like member number 7.

Bill must have a Cube. The 4.1.9 firmware is meant only for the Cube. When firmware 4.1.9 was first released it was also for G4 towers but was yanked because it caused a problem. This is the official Apple statement "Power Mac G4 Firmware Update 4.1.9 has been replaced with Power Mac G4 Firmware Update 4.2.8. 4.1.9 was reported to cause loss of sound after installation on certain Power Mac G4 computers. Firmware updates for the iMac and Power Mac G4 Cube do not appear to be affected".

One thing Bill could try is installing Jaquar on a drive in another machine then put it in the Cube. I put RAM in a Cube for someone once. They are easy to work on.
 
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“Startup Extensions”?????????

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With Panther, you will often use the Disk Utility to "repair permissions."
Why these permissions get broken on Panther is a mystery. But get broken they do, repeatedly.
In this screen shot, more than 1,000 permissions were being repaired.


Would anyone like to hazard a guess how long it’s been since I had to repair permissions in System 7.1, OS 8.0, 8.1, or 8.6?


Markle
 
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Since I'm fluent in English, I have no problem reading the first few lines of this crash screen:

"You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button."

But could someone confirm what the rest says?

Veuillez redemarrar votre ordinateur. Maintenez la touché de demarrage enfoncee pendant plusieurs secondes ou bien appuyez sur le bouton de reinitialisation.

My Italian may be a little rusty, but it appears to read:

You are fucked big time. Time to reinstall the operating system. The problem appears to be that you weren't thinking different enough. Just be glad you don't have to look at those sucky blue screens.
 
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My French is a little rusty, too, but I think it all just means...SUCKER!!!! HA!!!!! GOTCHA!!!!!

Markle
 
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The French and German sentences mean exactly the same as the English one.

I am familiar with three of the death screens Bill shows. On my eMac, there is no Restart Button that I can find. As Bill says, "holding down the Power button" has no effect: every time I have been reduced to unplugging the machine.

Just a week or so ago I had been spending some quality time in 9, and on going back to X, the machine wouldn't boot: I got the screen with just the apple and nothing happening. After trying and failing to get the machine to boot into 9 again, in the end I had to reinstall Panther to get the machine working once more.

Now, every time I go to 9, I'm a bit scared of retaliation by panther.
 
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Looks like the dude is trying to get "ipodsdirtysecret" type attention.
 
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My French is a little rusty, too, but I think it all just means...SUCKER!!!! HA!!!!! GOTCHA!!!!!

Why can't a Macintosh, of all computers, give error messages only in the language of the user? If I didn't know better I would assume that the computer was having an identity crisis, not trying to report a crash. Why does it take this shotgun approach of posting four languages in hopes that one will be intelligible to the end user? Jan, does your computer throw in a different set of languages on those screens? And if so, I think the proper thing to do then, at least in America, is to have those three or four languages be a different, more useable and appropriate set of English dialects. I propose that Macintosh error messages be written in Crap Settler, DigiKid, Geek, and Pro.

The Crap Settler error message would go something like this: "It's your fault that the computer crashed. Don't push it so hard next time."

The DigiKid message (accompanied by lavish animation and a groovy soundtrack) would be: "While waiting for the computer to restart, have another Pepsi."

The Geek screen might be a series of unintelligible error codes – at least unintelligible to the average person. Kind of like those current kernel panic screens.

The Pro error screen would be a simple, clear message written in pixilated 9 pt. Geneva with a little icon above. But instead of a bomb icon we'd update the concept a bit. It would be a simple animation of a house of cards falling to the ground.
 
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Jan, does your computer throw in a different set of languages on those screens?

I have my OS X language set to English, so I get the same screen as you folks.
My OS 9 system language is set to Dutch, and very good Dutch it is too.

Now that you mention it, Brad, it would be worthwhile to set my X system-language to Dutch and see if next panic I get the same English, French, German and what is it - Chinese? screen without a word of Dutch on it. I wouldn't be surprised if this should prove to be the case.
 
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…and what is it - Chinese?

I can read a little Chinese (very little) This appears to be Japanese.
 
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I'm sure it's an image anyway.

Yes that's Japanese.
 
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Originally posted by Markle:
Would anyone like to hazard a guess how long it’s been since I had to repair permissions in System 7.1, OS 8.0, 8.1, or 8.6?


About as long as I have gone without having to juggle extensions or manually allocate application ram in OS X, I'm guessing.
 
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The only time I've ever seen the screen with the circle-slash "not" symbol, was trying to install Panther on an old sawtooth G4, 450 single processor. I forget what the issue was, video card or something. But I remember looking at the screen and going, fuck, that tells me absolutely nothing about how to fix this.
 
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Originally posted by Markle:
Would anyone like to hazard a guess how long it’s been since I had to repair permissions in System 7.1, OS 8.0, 8.1, or 8.6?
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About as long as I have gone without having to juggle extensions or manually allocate application ram in OS X, I'm guessing.

No, many years longer.


Markle
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Markle:
No, many years longer.
Markle


Never is not a function of time.
 
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