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N'abend (means good evening in pub-german),

I just noticed a story on AnandTech: A die-hard PC-head tries to use a G5 & OS-X... Quite interesting to read a review from another perspective.

Of course the slowness is mentioned, esp. websurfing and gui-lag. Read if you like...

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232
 
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Brother smithz

This guy is obviously a crap settling chimp.

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I quickly realized that although Apple had targeted the entry level computer user with the interface of OS X, the OS was far more tailored to the power user in my opinion.


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Customization is much more possible (and easy to do) under OS X


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OS X has been designed to be as unintrusive to the user as possible.


These are just a few of the delusions of a windblows user. Big Grin

Thanks for the read.
 
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Anand Lal Shimpi is one of the most respected computer hardware analysts anywhere. Regardless of what you think of his opinion of OS X, to call him a "crap settling chimp" does disservice to his extensive knowledge and expertise.
 
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Customization is much more possible (and easy to do) under OS X


THIS made me scratch my head a few times, besides this flaw i think his "review" is quite objective and fair.

I guess he never thought about changing the fonts, otherwise he would recognize the LACK of customization in certain areas.

I don't think he's crapsettling too much, because he doesn't have a reason to crapsettle.

Choppy scrolling still sucks.
 
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Arlo Arlo Arlo were do I start.

In Mr. Shimpi's final statement he claims that his is not a switcher story. Mr Shimpi has felt the power of Mac OS X. He ain't never going back XP. What does he use as his basis for denial. Hardware incompatibility of Mac's with the rest of the industry leaving him with the need to have wintel boxes around. Now we know that is just crapsettling.

In the beginning of the article he went on and on about how expensive Apple hardware at the top of the line. He explained how you could get so much more on the wintel side for the money. I am assuming that is if you put the wintel box together yourself it is cheaper. If you go to Dell and set up a compareable Dell box to a 2.5DP G5 box you are paying as much or more.

Later on the over all stability of his Mac he says is due to Apple having it very easy because they have complete control over the hardware. How does that make it easy. Number one thing they do not have control. They have to work with the hardware vendors to get what they want.

In the case of video cards Apple has to settle on the low end products in every line. The reason for this is it probably is only cost effective for ATI and Nvidia to supply Apple with what is left over of what they manufacture from the wintel side. It is a way to assure less of the old stuff from going unsold. This is evident with the high end Nvidia 6800 card shipping so late. He praised Apples ADC connection which is undoubtedly the best way to connect a monitor to a computer for all the reason's Shimpi listed. He thought it was a step backward for Apple to go back to DVI. Apple was forced to go back to DVI because the video card and monitor manufacturers refused to adopt the far superior ADC connector. That is a failure of the industry. Not a failure of Apple.

On a whole the article was very interesting even more so now that you pointed out that Mr. Shimpi is such an asteemed wintel icon.

This killed me: "Despite my appeasement with Apple's platform, this is far from a "switch" story."

I say in another six months Mr Shimpi stops writing about wintel all together.
 
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Smithz I think this article alone gives you a green light in having your friend purchase a Powerbook. If they go with the 15" model have them bump up the video to the 128mb card.

Shimpi did not mention fonts at all.

I skipped over some of the applications and web browsing in the article. I will have to go back and read them.
 
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Did we read the same article? No where does he say he's dumping Windows. In fact, he says:
"I've outlined what I do and don't like about the platform, and honestly, if you gave me the task of doing the same thing for the x86/Windows platform, I could come up with a set of different, but similar, sounding arguments for that platform as well. In the end, they are both very strong platforms, but without the compatibility and affordability of the PC platform, I can't see myself being strictly a Mac user."

He's added the Mac to his stable of PC and Linux boxes, which is great, but he won't stop writing about Wintel anytime soon heh.
 
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refused to adopt the far superior ADC connector. That is a failure of the industry. Not a failure of Apple.


hm, I disagree on that. Apple tried to establish a new standard on their own, but without a massive force behind your back this is hopeless. Therefore i would say Apple acted stupid, a new standard can't be established by a 2% marketshare company, regardless how good the idea is.

I think it was a good move to drop ADC quickly instead of fighting it and lose anyway after 1-2 years.

The best technical solution never wins in the industry, it's a mixture of costs, lobbyist-stuff plus technical stuff.

Err, and that powerbook-friend ordered his 15", but he has to wait. He will be happy with that nice powerbook, bc. he only uses office and some internet. He will be pleased with OS-X, it's perfect for him. (...and it's wrong for me :-)
 
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"I've outlined what I do and don't like about the platform, and honestly, if you gave me the task of doing the same thing for the x86/Windows platform, I could come up with a set of different, but similar, sounding arguments for that platform as well. In the end, they are both very strong platforms, but without the compatibility and affordability of the PC platform, I can't see myself being strictly a Mac user."


This statement only reinforces the denial Shimpi is in. "I can't see myself being strictly a Mac user" is his fear that he has already become a Mac User.

Shimpi is not a "switcher" because he could not get his blackberry working without a third party vendor solution.

Shimpi is converted.

Okay maybe he will still be writing about wintel six months from now.

It will only be to show what a stinking pile of slap daddy craptapular wintels evil universe is really about.
 
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Now smithz I do realize your point but I don't think Apple acted stupid. It is a 98% up hill battle against stupid for Apple. It indeed is about patent pending and royalty checks. If the industry adopted ADC Apple would get a residual of some sort. Instead the market suppressed the technology waiting most likely for the patents to run out then all of a sudden like a miracle when there once was 3 cables for connecting a monitor there now is only one.

When the industry sat down during the mid 90's to adopt some standards for connections the universal serial bus(USB) was born. Apple contributed Firewire. The industry as a whole set up USB at 12mbs speed. Firewire is 400mbs and chainable. Firewire made it even though it was way out ahead of the curve the rest of the industry had set. I think Sony and Canon might have had a hand in the success of Firewire because it was stuff that they were making that was going to benifit from Firewire. Sony is large enough to set their own standards still like their propriatory "memory stick" media for Sony's digital cameras.

If Mr. Shimpi's article is any litmus test your friend should take to Mac OS X like a duck to water.

I would suggest to special order from Apple to get the extra video memory. They come standard with 64mb the special order bumps it to 128mb. It is worth it in the long run. Laptops in general at least for Apple can not upgrade the video memory.

I wonder if this is true on the PC side for Laptops and video memory?
 
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Originally posted by RicoX:
Shimpi is not a "switcher" because he could not get his blackberry working without a third party vendor solution.

Shimpi is converted.

Okay maybe he will still be writing about wintel six months from now.

It will only be to show what a stinking pile of slap daddy craptapular wintels evil universe is really about.


Thing is, his site isn't geared towards computer users, rather hardware hobbyists. Yeah, maybe he'll switch to the Mac for his end-use, but as a computer hardware hobbyist, he will always be working with wintel/linux boxes.
 
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