This thread in comp.sys.mac.system is worth taking a gander at:

"Will Macs ever surpass PCs?"

Reminds me of the old days. Here's the bait:

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| I don't like Macs because you can't do anything on them and it leaves
| a mess on the desktop. Macintosh customers are usually soccer moms
| who flail their arms about when they see a command line. PCs being far
| too complicated for the simple minded. They flail because they need to
| buy $900 software that costs $200 for PCs so they can make their artsy
| fartsy overdone restaurant menus and drive their husbands nuts
| because they never actually make a penny because their overhead was
| the price of a Macintosh. Which is, by the way, 10x more $$$ than a
| comparable Windows PC. Well, lets see, I can RUN OS/2, WINDOWS 2000, DOS,
| LINUX, NOVELL, WINDOWS XP and DOS4GW and other extenders of the
| like on my PC, but not on a Crapintosh. Try to get Mack WAREZ, hah hah
| hah, good one. MAC OS is good, but it can't shake a stick at
| WindowsNT, LINUX, or even Windows 95. Mac was made by a lucky moron,
| who, in spite of being far ahead of his time with the Windows
| interface, managed to drive not only NeXT but Apple into the ground.
| STOP MAKING FOOLS OF YOURSELVES!

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It's actually got it all. I love this guy. Cuts right to the heart of things. There's a lot of truth in it. And exposes the kind of power trip and creative pro envy that PC users feel toward the Mac Faithful. It drives a lot of these people nuts that non-geeks can actually use their computers for SOMETHING, instead of riding on their knowledge OF COMPUTERS. It causes anger and resentment in the geek aristocracy. Those artsy fartsy overdone restaurant menus are a threat. Elevating soccer moms to creative professionals hurts these guys, steals their thunder. Whenever you expose this idea that guys with lots of geeky tech knowledge basically don't do anything that HARD... and it can be bypassed by unleashing the creative power of the PC to EVERYONE... you get stuff like this. Status quo panic. Ironically, it doesn't hurt Mac pros, because we're idea driven... the more the merrier... bangers and home DTPers never bothered me. They have just as much a right to express themselves as super trained, hardcore dues-payers in the industry. You will never catch a Mac Faithful trying to save his or her job by denying good creative tools to others.

But when you analyze the seething mess that is geekdom, you see a real reluctance to unleash computing power to anybody but a select few. Look at how no warez flips the guy out. No warez, means no edge, no power. A more level playing field.

The Mac was at its strongest, when its philosophy was about making technology work for people without judging whether they were soccer moms or digikids, bangers or pros. Now that exactly those kind of stereotypes are in the mix, because some idiots think they equal market share, look at the friggin' pandora's box it opens up. The first downlook at the userbase, led to a general climate of insulting crap, con-jobs, and exploitation. Macs became about division, polarization, and withholding power, instead of elevating individual creativity like it used to. It became about selling passive entertainment, not providing usable tools. About levering people into pigeonholes, to strong arm them into behaving a certain way, buying certain shit (over and over).

That's the soul-selling of the Mac in a nutshell.

But read the posts. You want a good, solid overview of the kind of psychology that is driving the debate, check it out.

But read the posts. You want a good, solid overview of the kind of psychology that is driving the debate, check it out.

I'm still trying to figure out which posts from comp.sys.mac.system are spam and which have to do with the OS wars:

Britney Spears and justin timberlake
Busty Sister Giving a Handjob
Panther eats Norton
Jessica Simpson showering on a Texas beach

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But read the posts. You want a good, solid overview of the kind of psychology that is driving the debate, check it out.

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That debate is, like, so 2000, fer shuurre.


Markle

Valley guy
He’s a valley guy
Valley guy
He’s a valley guy
Okay, fine...
Fer sure, fer sure
He’s a valley guy
In an Apple store
Okay, fine...
Fer sure, fer sure
He’s a

Like, oh my god! (valley guy)
Like - totally (valley guy)
Cupertino is like so bitchen (valley guy)
There’s like the galleria (valley guy)
And like all these like really great computer stores
I love going into like computer stores and stuff
I like buy the neatest mini-iPods and stuff
It’s like so bitchen cuz like everybody’s like
Super-super nice...
It’s like so bitchen...

On infinite loop, there he goes
He just bought some bitchen clothes
Tosses his head ’n flips his hair
He's got a whole bunch of nothin’ in there

Anyway, she goes are you into MSN?
I go, oh right...
Could you like just picture me on like a winblows PC?
Yeah right, hurt me, hurt me...
I’m sure! no way!
She was like freaking me out...
She called me a zealot...
That’s cuz like she was totally geeked
He goes like bag your face!
I’m sure!

Valley guy
He’s a valley guy
Valley guy
He’s a valley guy
Okay, fine...
Fer sure, fer sure
He’s a valley guy
So smart ’n sure
Okay, fine...
Fer sure, fer sure
He’s a
It’s really sad (valley guy)
Like my British designer
He’s like... (valley guy)
He’s like mr. gu-ru (valley guy)
We’re talking lord God king gu-ru (valley guy)
I am so sure
He’s like so gross
He like sits there and like plays with all his protos
And he like flirts with all the guys in the labs
It’s like totally disgusting
I’m like so sure
It’s like barf me out...
Gag me with a spoon!

Last idea to cross his mind
Had something to do with where to find
A pair of jeans to fit his butt
And where to get his turtlenecks

So like I go into this like PC cafe, y’know
And I wanted like to get my emails done
And the lady like goes, oh my god, your emails
Are like so grody
It was like really embarrassing
She’s like oh my god, like delete those emails
I’m like sure...
She goes, uh, I don’t know if I can handle this, y’know...
I was like really embarrassed...

Valley guy
He’s a valley guy
Valley guy
He’s a valley guy
Okay, fine
Fer sure, fer sure
He’s a valley guy
And there is no cure
Okay, fine
Fer sure, fer sure
He’s a valley guy
And there is no cure

Like my CFO is like a total space cadet (valley guy)
He like makes me watch my spending and (valley guy)
Clean the product grid (valley guy)
I am sure
That’s like gross (valley guy)
Barf out! (valley guy)
Oh my God (valley guy)

Hi!
Uh-huh... (valley guy)
My name?
My name is Steven P. Jobs (valley guy)
Uh-huh
That’s right, Steven (valley guy)
Uh-huh...
I know
It’s like... (valley guy)
I do not think different...
I’m sure (valley guy)
Whatsa matter with the way I think? (valley guy)
I am a val, I know (valley guy)
But I live like in a really good part of cupertino so it’s okay
(valley guy)
Uh-huh... (valley guy)
So like, I don’t know (valley guy)
I’m like freaking out totally (valley guy)
Oh my god! (valley guy)

Hi - I have to go to the Macworld Keynote (valley guy)
I’m passing my NeXTSTEP off, y’know (valley guy)
But I have to pretend it's Macintosh
That’s going to be really like a total bummer
I’m freaking out
I’m sure
It’s like those things that like print pros used?
They’re so gross...
You like get ink all over them
But like, I don’t know, it’s going to be cool, y’know
So you can see my Gulfstream V
It’ll be like really cool
Except my like my marketshare is like too small
But no biggie...
It’s so awesome
It’s like tubular, y’know
Well, Aqua's not like really ugly or anything
It’s just like
I don’t know
You know me, I’m like into like the geek stuff
Like pac-man and like, I don’t know
Like my stockholders like make me keep Macintosh
It’s like so gross...
Like all the stuff like geeks really hate
And it’s like, it’s like somebody else’s HIGs, y’know
It’s like grody...
Grody to the max
I’m sure
It’s like really nauseating
Like barf out
Gag me with a spoon
Gross
I am sure
Totally...

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ROTFL!!

Post of the month!

Like, bag those widgets! See those flashing colors—barf out! And that, like, dock thingy? Grody! Grody to the max! I am SO shurre!


Markle

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Markle,

Mmmmm-mmmm MMMMM! that's some gooooood silly! Hot damn.

Powerbooks got the speedbump. Like, totally tubular! They're all like extreme and bitchin' and come with GarageBand! Like, what more could we ask for? Shut UP thalo! No YOU shut up.