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| Thalo.net Skeptic |
"He's as blind as he can be, Just sees what he wants to see, Nowhere Man....." Only the lunatic fringe believes in a monolithic "mainstream media." The right bleats about the "liberal elite" and the left brays about the "corporate media." My oft-repeated definition of "biased media:" anything that doesn't parrot MY party line. . | |||
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| Mockerator |
"He's as blind as he can be, Just sees what he wants to see, Nowhere Man....." Markle, even an actual blind man could see the extreme (not slight) media bias that is going on, including the perky Katie Couric. I, frankly, would be embarrassed to post such ludicrously naive denials. And I think you're actually serious. It's not a debating tactic. You really don't believe there is any media bias. That's amazing to me, but I do really believe now that you think that. | |||
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| THALO.net divinity |
I am with you thalo. I have met alot of politicians over the years and they are all phony. The only politician I ever meet that wasn't a phony was the Mayor of Panama City, Panama. Governor Palin comes across the same way like she is a real person. In that Couric interview she was a real person. I grew up in a small town. I would take the Mayor of a small town in a crisis over 100 US Senators any day of the week. And out of the four candidates she is the only one who has the qualifications to be in an executive position. The person with the least qualifications is Senator Hussein. | |||
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| Mockerator |
I grew up in a small town. I would take the Mayor of a small town in a crisis over 100 US Senators any day of the week. Rico, I read recently an article (don't remember if I linked to it) that talked about how east coast establishment Republicans historically have tended to sound and act much like east coast establishment liberals in their look-down-their-elite-noses dislike for anyone outside of their gentry. If you've read that stuff in the Book thread by Thomas Sowell, he gives a very good account for how this country was a break with the Political Geek Aristocracy. We still have elites, and they have their place. But the automatic bias for big-city, big-intellectual know-it-alls was broken in the very style and scope of the Constitution. And people such as the elitist, arrogant, nanny-state Democrats (particularly including Obama) are a return to the old days of we-know-best, let-them-eat-cake aristocrat/technocrats. And many people (oddly, given the great history of this country which gives us so many great examples to the contrary) side with that Political Geek Aristocracy and look down on, and even laugh at, the common man who they see as bitter, unsophisticated folks "clinging to guns and religion." Sarah Palin is like kryptonite to that mindset. And a bit of kryptonite is just what the doctor ordered. | |||
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| Thalo.net Skeptic |
. After almost 8 years of Bushian incompetence and ineptitude, you guys really think that ANYbody off the street could be President of the United States?? W was the son of a president and the governor of a big state, and HE was in over his head. You must not think much of the presidency if you think a nobody like Sarah Palin could be president just because you like her hobbies. You'd probably say that the president of a local Rotary Club has enough executive experience to lead a great nation, and enough foreign policy experience because he eats in a Chinese restaurant and read an article about Iran in the National Geographic. You've learned nothing from the last 8 years, have you? . | |||
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| THALO.net legacy |
That's pretty funny considering that you have Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's strong influence over the yahoos of our great country who got Bush elected into office.....TWICE. What's even funnier is the quote you provided from the columnist, who equates Couric's supposed lack of qualification for her position in the goddamn media with Palin, who is obviously unqualified. But hey, no biggie; Palin is only running for the VP position, and has a good chance of one day becoming President. That's like putting an unqualified house painter on the same footing as an unqualified brain surgeon (not to disparage house painters). And how dare Couric ask her questions and expect a cogent, coherent reply! And by the way, Couric wasn't the one who asked her how she'd handle Pakistan (her response was similar to Obama's, but of course, later retracted). It was asked by a voter on YouTube. So now all Americans who ask honest, simple questions of our leaders have an ulterior motive??? But McCain and she labeled it a "gotcha" question. I shudder at the thought of these two heading our country. Regardless of Couric's, or anyone's intent, the fact remains that Palin is not equipped to answer the most basic questions that one would expect from a person in the position she is in now. Palin's responses weren't gaffes like some of the comments that Biden has made, ones that you and Rico love to counter with when the truth hurts. Surely Biden knows that television didn't exist in 1929 and that FDR wasn't the president that year. You know it and I know it. Yet, your defenses are so weak that this is all you can come up with. Biden a drunk? Perhaps. An illiterate? Hardly. Palin is just plain ill-equipped, uninformed, unworldly, and nowhere near presidential material. Her babbling responses are all over the place just to cover up the fact that she doesn't know shit about the topic on hand. Judging by many of her answers, her severe limitations are not only being exposed, but the fact that she'll spew anything, just to cover up the fact that she's unable to answer the question, tells me that she not only is ill-prepared but also cannot be trusted. I'll even go so far as calling her a liar. Think about it. Typically, when somebody is asked a question they either respond with what they believe would be an appropriate answer or they just don't know. What does Palin do? She babbles and jive talks to hide her inadequacies. She lies. Only now she's running into more sophisticated people than she may be used to in Alaska; people who immediately see right through her bullshit soccer-mom, moose-eating, regular woman act and call her on it. Poor baby. This tired, repetitive act will only continue to charm the more simple folk or the braindead. Then you have your staunch, right wing, nutty conservatives who truly see through her bullshit, but pretend to the rest of the world that these are legitimate assets. Why? Because most are probably full of shit themselves. | |||
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| THALO.net legacy |
And by the way, there's a difference between being a maverick and a loose cannon. McCain falls in the latter category. | |||
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| THALO.net divinity |
Markle what last eight years did you live in. Maybe your brain is just eight years behind and what you think was these terrible Bush years are just the Clinton years finally catching up with your consciousness. And poor Snobby what reality distortion field do you live in. What politician passes your litmus test for an interview? So for you as long as the politician lies without actually seeming like they are lying means that they are qualified to lead the country. I shudder to think you actually vote. | |||
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| Mockerator |
What's even funnier is the quote you provided from the columnist, who equates Couric's supposed lack of qualification for her position in the goddamn media with Palin, who is obviously unqualified. This issue isn't whether Palin is perfect. It's whether she is being measured by the same yardstick as that used for Obama and Biden. And it's not even close. Obama has said so many contradictory and outright stupid things, anything Palin has said (at the bottom of the ticket, mind you) is small potatoes. What does Palin do? She babbles and jive talks to hide her inadequacies. None of these four candidates is flawless. But, again, you have this inflated partisan urge to paint Palin as a mindless, stupid, lying slut while giving a complete pass to the stuff Biden and Obama have said and done that make any of Palin's supposed gaffs pale in comparison. You're just another partisan hack, Snobby, with not much objectivity. Your repeated hysterical ravings regarding Palin suggest to me that you're trying to convince yourself that she is the person that the liberal media and other hacks are trying to portray her as. Be fair. Be objective. Again, it just seems unmanly to me that anyone would just be such a mindless mouthpiece for the left. | |||
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| THALO.net legacy |
When are you going to come out and say you've been pulling our legs this whole time? You almost had me going, you knucklehead! | |||
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| THALO.net legacy |
You keep calling them "gaffes' when speaking of Palin. These aren't gaffes. Mistakenly saying that FDR addressed the nation via television in 1929 is a gaffe; perhaps even said in a drunken stupor. McCain mistaking "Somalia" for "Sudan" is a gaffe. With Palin, this is her absolute, limited mindset and lack of comprehension. What you are seeing is what you are going to get and for those who support her, deservedly so. These aren't "ooops", wrong timelines, mispronunciations, honest mistakes, etc., that she's making. She is a deer in the headlights, completely out of her league, confused and baffled and she knows it. She relies on her same soccer mom tales, simplistic terrorsit "strategies" rehearsed pom-pom waving and same sophomoric sarcastic "insults" and lines that may have worked the first time but not after hearing them over and over ad infinitum. Tina Fey's impersonation is more realism than parody. All one has to do to mock Palin is parrot her every word. I have not seen one, not one objective post or analysis on your part, yet you patronizingly ask me to do the same. If you think that my being a mindless mouthpiece is "unmanly" then what does that make you as you mindlessly march in lockstep to the right with your blinders on? A transvestite? | |||
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| THALO.net legacy |
At the risk of sounding presumptuous, I never in my wildest imagination imagined Mac users as holy-rolling, stuffy, unsympathetic, intolerant, unwavering, mindless flag-waving, war-mongering, staunch right wingnuts. We supposedly were a different breed. I will now empty a bottle of Chateau Lafite Rothschild (we pretentious liberals know our wines) over my Mac. I'm a pour one for ma homies. | |||
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| Mockerator |
At the risk of sounding presumptuous, I never in my wildest imagination imagined Mac users as holy-rolling, stuffy, unsympathetic, intolerant, unwavering, mindless flag-waving, war-mongering, staunch right wingnuts. We supposedly were a different breed. The reality of the situation at the moment is that unless Obama is caught in bed with a dead woman or a live boy (as the old political joke goes), he's now a shoe-in for president because of McCain's total mishandling of this Fanny Mae mess. In the sound bite I heard today, he sounded absolutely pathetic as he continued his call for bipartisanship. I agree with Laura Ingraham (and Coulter, and a few others, including John Kerry who said "screw bipartisanship") that what's needed from the Republican side is a little ass kicking. McCain, the supposed reformer, ought to try playing that role for a change. But he is who he is and that means he is feckless regarding these kinds of tough decisions where you actually have to look at the people across the aisle and say "You are misguided, wrong, and you need a new brand of deodorant as well." Sadly, he's got more than enough balls when it comes to national security issues, which is our main issue. Contrary to what most politicians have gotten people to believe, they are not needed in order for the economy of the United States to function. They serve us best in this regard when they are no longer in session. But regarding national security issues, a president's leadership, abilities, experience, and overall mindset is crucial. And while Obama can do a lot of slick talk about stuff that is of little or no importance to the lives of average people, he's extremely weak and feckless regarding national security. So it's indeed unfortunate that McCain is so feckless himself when it comes to domestic, and particularly, free market issues. But then this is the clown who limited free speech with his ill-advised McCain-Feingold wart on the first amendment. He "bipartisaned" himself into a really stupid piece of legislation. He feels good but the first amendment groans. (But this ain't nothing compared to what Obama would do, including the likely revival of the Orwellian-named "Fairness Doctrine" which is just a means to squelch non-liberal opinions.) So I now officially declare this contest over. All that's left to do is count the votes. Had the "maverick" (and I agree he is no such thing) stood up for the average taxpayer in America (let alone the average conservative) and outed the bullshit behind this current scandal, right now he could be measuring the Oval Office for new curtains. But he is who he is which is why he wouldn't have been in my top 20 list of candidates on the Republican side. | |||
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| Thalo.net Skeptic |
If she leaned over a little more, maybe you could get more suction while you're kissing her ass. . | |||
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| THALO.net divinity |
BN the election isn't until November 4. Besides I called this election months ago. McCain/Palin win in a landslide. Senator Hussein is unelectable. When people step into vote they will not be voting for Hussein/Biden. There will however be a great controversy after the election because groups like ACORN who are illegally registering people to vote will call fail when Hussein/Biden loose. They will make claims of voter fraud. Riots will most likely break out as well along racist lines. People will be upset. | |||
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| Thalo.net Skeptic |
. To be fair, credit where credit is due, and all that, this last note of Brad's about McCain is quite thoughtful. . | |||
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| Thalo.net Skeptic |
. Especially compared to Bozo's droolings. Hmmmmm.... Could Bozo actually be a black-bag operation by Brad to make his usual rantings seem more reasonable........? . | |||
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| Master Baiter |
Right. Screw bipartisanship. My infatuation with Sarah has nothing to do with the fact that I've been predicting all along Obama will win. I've said it from Day 1. And now seeing McCain really wimp out about this, it's unfortunate. But to the guy's credit, it's probably an indication that he's doing what he believes is right. Trouble is, it's all wrong. This bailout deal stinks to high heaven, it has from the beginning. I mean, we were joking about free houses and credit card amnesty, but I've already heard the rumblings and squeakings of exactly that kind of crap. The government is being an enabler. For behavior that we should be shocked and disappointed in. We need a dog whisperer and we're getting mollycoddling of exactly the crap that put us in a bad situation. Forget drill baby, drill. Now it should be Fail Baby, Fail. I don't think I've ever actually thought doing nothing was the best strategy. Except in the face of a long con like this. I'll be really upset when the American people crack. I've actually been proud of my countrymen and our impact on government with respect to this. I have these kind of one-voice jollies, sort of the way it was after 9/11. Politicians are rousing the sleeping giant. And it's going to be trow out da bums. Oh, and say what you will about Fox News and Fox Business. They are the only channels that've really been providing intelligent coverage of not only the political race, but the financial crisis. Neil Cavuto and his pumpkin head have turned out to be the one voice of calm reason and analysis in a sea of doomsaying nonsense. Snobby, it's true, Mac Users are almost to a man liberal. I was just reading an article about that a couple of weeks ago. I think what you're seeing here at thalo.net is the greybeard factor. Swallowing PC liberal BS is so much like swallowing the con-job of OS X. It's emotion and marketing, rather than practicality and common sense. My conservative leanings have NOTHING to do with any kind of holy-roller aspect. My views on religion are abundantly clear. Another con job. Another manipulating force, where emotion and superstition win out over reason. And liberals play that card too. Obama makes a point of telling us that he's a christian, and his church is one of the holiest-rollerest I've ever seen. Not to mention racist. The fact of the matter with the political situation is that too much government is the WHOLE REASON we're in this mess. Just like OS X, we got bloated and counterintuitive, rather than lean and mean. So what I'm going to do here, is cling to my guns, cling to my personal flavor of "religion" (which happens to be FREE SPEECH), the US Constitution, fighting islamic terror, and rational skeptical thought... and let the chips fall where they may. I will root for the hot chick. Oh, how I want somebody like her in the halls of power. But I've seen this coming for a long time. The chimpification of America. And that means the Dems have got a lock. It doesn't matter that I think the Republicans are right. The zeal and emotion and rage at Bush are all in favor of the liberals mopping up. Now with the financial crisis forcing the issue of living beyond means and bullshit political correctness, we're getting the wake-up call. October is going to be an interesting month. If I were McCain, I'd be praying the American people continue to fall in love with Sarah, and I'm hoping against hope she cleans Joe Biden's clock in the debate. I friggin' hate that half a fag. But that would be a pleasant surprise. Then, if he wants it to be close, if I were him I'd plant my 73 year old ass in Ohio and campaign it off there. That's going to be the new Florida, with that same day registration/absentee ballot strategy. That really does favor Obama because of the slacker digikid vote. Then, I'd be hoping that they find Osama bin Laden and strap his dead body across a humvee like a deer and drive it through the streets of Kabul on national TV. | |||
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| Mockerator |
When people step into vote they will not be voting for Hussein/Biden. There will however be a great controversy after the election because groups like ACORN who are illegally registering people to vote will call fail when Hussein/Biden loose. They will make claims of voter fraud. Riots will most likely break out as well along racist lines. People will be upset. One of the unhappiest realities of this election, Rico, is that this radicalization of the left, which often flew under the radar, but which has been dramatically and slowly changing this country for the worse – and which finally had a public face on it in the guise of Obama – has been thus far largely left unchallenged. Not ironically, in my opinion, the politics of personal destruction (remember the Democratic propensity for assertively projecting their own stuff onto others) have cowed many Republicans from doing so. McCarthy on his best day couldn't have cowed and intimidated so many people with the typical liberal witch-hunt tactics and cries of racism, sexism, or whatever ism is convenient at the moment. This is likely why Republicans, although they did repeatedly point out the problems with Fanny Mae, weren't more aggressive about fixing it. As Rush said, the Dems would have just ran up a procession of poor, downtrodden people who would have given sob stories about how they got kicked out of their homes. And racism would be charged, as it was implied when they said it was a "public lynching" that the Republicans were trying to pull on the guy running Fanny Mae (or one of the agencies). This stuff never ends if you don't face it down. The Republicans desperately need their "Have you no shame" moment, and it's long past due. Arguably, McCain is the kind of straight-talking man (if this were more truth than image) that many of the public wanted, which is surely why he got the nomination. He represented a quieter approach. Instead of the shrillness of Nancy Pelosi, somewhere in McCain's polling data he has ascertained that people want a Mr. Rogers with white hair. And there is undoubtedly a lot of truth to this. But this is not all that they want. They want a leader as well, and sometimes leaders have to draw lines in the sand and take bold positions on things instead of always running to "bipartisanship." When a bully is being a bully (and this is certainly how I define the temper-tantrum child-like squeaky wheel politics of the left as you see once again in the Palin Derangement Syndrome as they attempt to smear at all costs), you just have to be willing to face these people down and not blink. There is no substitute for that in this world. And when you do face them down, suddenly the bully looses the power to intimidate, and they know it. That is why Palin's frank words in a couple of her early speeches garnered such a good reception. People are tired of letting the freakish and grating Nancy Pelosis of the world run roughshod over it. But basic self-preservation power politics means that until someone looks as if they're going to stand up to that stuff, people will just tend to knuckle under and stay under the radar. McCain's campaign, to have any chance of saving it, requires an infusion of true courage and not this cowardly hiding behind the rubric of "bipartisanship." And as harsh as that may be to call someone who is an unequivocal war hero a coward, that's how I see it, although it could just be a case of being extremely misguided, which is no better regarding practical results and the leadership that is needed. | |||
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| Thalo.net Skeptic |
intelligent coverage = what you agree with . | |||
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