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Everyone wants Justin Bieber's hair

Is that because they want to be GIRLS?

I swear to god, when I first saw this kid, I thought it was a chick.

Teen idols come, and Teen idols go. It's funny how so many have had sort of girly hair styles, especially back in the 70's when sister thalo went mental for almost-dudes like Bobby Sherman and Leif Garrett.

I wonder if girls are just looking for soft, nonthreatening versions of themselves.

I saw a funny viral bit, some Kiwi interviewer asking Justin darling about whether his name meant something in "German"... well apparently the accent threw the kid, and he had no idea what the word "German" was... a total brain fart. Later on his twitter, the article said he thought the guy was saying "Jew Man"...

whereupon I thought, move over Joe Biden, the next generation of gaffe king is crowned.
 
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And it's not that I think this kid is talentless. He's certainly a better singer than those dreadful whatever-brothers... oh yeah, JONAS. Good God, they are terrible.

This kid Justin hosted SNL and did an admirable job. He also doubled as the musical guest. And you could tell he had practiced his "cool" pop star moves in front of the mirror. It was funny, but he wasn't out-and-out bad. Wait, let me put that another way... though his music made ME want to puncture my own eardrums, I could understand why teen girls might buy the kid's records. The song "U Smile" had sort of a classic teen-idol vibe.

But holy crap... the hair... the hair...

I suppose I know what my grandparents felt like when they saw the Beatles' moptops. But that was so much less unstructured and un-fussed with. This new style is so... errr, blow-dried.

But this is it. Justin baby is the top of the postmodern pop-culture heap. Teeny bopper girls (those that aren't vampires) love him, and their mothers love him. I'm hoping the FATHERS will kind of hold out, but I doubt they will. I can only hope Bieber is a fad that will peter out pretty fast. Something tells me no such luck, though.
 
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though his music made ME want to puncture my own eardrums, I could understand why teen girls might buy the kid's records.


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But holy crap... the hair... the hair...

I suppose I know what my grandparents felt like when they saw the Beatles' moptops. But that was so much less unstructured and un-fussed with. This new style is so... errr, blow-dried.


The Beatles hairstyle was long like Jesus compared to the "Mrs. Johnson wished she really had had a daughter" look.
 
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"Mrs. Johnson wished she really had had a daughter" look.


LOL! I think it's a much creepier look, more like "if Brian Cox in the movie L.I.E. represents a whole class of child molesters and pederasts in America, the type of teen they most want to molest-look."

But that's neither here nor there. The fact is, Justin's intended audience, young preteen and teen girls... are ready to immolate themselves over him. He posed for one photo with a Kardashian (I forget which one, I get them confused)... and instantly twitter was aflame with death threats for her. They don't want to just FUCK Justin, they want to utterly possess him. With all the desperate hormonal teen angst they can muster.

It's made the kid a total phenomenon. And it's giving him money undreamed of... enough to send his squeaky-clean image into an adulthood of endless drugs and whatever expensive self-destruction you can imagine. You can almost hear the "behind the music" documentary of his decline and demise being written as we speak.

Oh, a follow up on the "German" controversy... the video shows the interviewer showing Justin the PRINTED word "German"... so unless he can't READ on top of it, I think there is something to this. I mean, unless the word on the PAGE said "Jew Man".
 
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I think it's a much creepier look, more like "if Brian Cox in the movie L.I.E. represents a whole class of child molesters and pederasts in America, the type of teen they most want to molest-look."


I've been seriously one-upped. LMAO.

Cute and brainless as well....the complete transformation to the stereotypical ideal female.
 
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Yeah, I wonder, does the fact that he couldn't parse the word "German" on his feet, make him even more delicious to his fan base?

Instead of eye rolling that Bieber is a dope, maybe all these girls have to do is boycott German products.

I was thinking, that when young men were 16 not so long ago, they were too busy fighting the civil war, or indians to worry about blow drying their hair. Now granted, teen idols back then weren't upstanding young girly men like Bieber. They were more like Billy the Kid, murderous outlaws. So I suppose that's a good thing. Girly is more civilized than killer-teen. But we have those too.
 
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With great pride I can say I have never seen an episode of American Idol. I have no idea who Justin Beiber is nor want to know.

Idiots I say. Idiots.
 
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Hahaha, no he's not American Idol. He's just some teen pop star. Current flavor of the month.

I haven't watched American Idol this season at all. I couldn't tell you the name of any of the finalists. I saw a clip of one girl with dreadlocks, who sounded OK. But otherwise, meh. I don't have any idea why Ellen Degenerate is a judge. She's not the slightest bit aligned with the music business. That's where the show lost me.

I like that Simon, because he's an honest critic. Not afraid to say what he thinks. And it's always good TV for me to see the violent reaction he gets, just because he's not necessarily ass-kissing and nice, and doesn't try to protect people's feelings.

I love how that turns him into the antichrist in pop culture. And yet they love to hate him, and the ratings are through the roof. (er, except this year)... the psychology of it is fascinating, and it tells me we are a culture that WANTS to say a bunch of honest shit, but the PC tyranny won't let us. So we vilify people who speak their mind, but at the same time we yearn for that. It's because we don't have that freedom. If people weren't worried about being feelings-hurters, somebody like Cowell wouldn't get his fame. He'd be just another honest guy. But because politically incorrect (non "constructive") criticism is such a bugaboo, it rockets him to celebrity status.
 
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Do you suppose there was any equivalent to this kind of shit when we were cavemen? It's amazing the human race made it this far.

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And there seems to be a celebration of the stupid among yutes. And I'm not absolutely sure they know they're doing so. That's what stupid can do for you.
 
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I think the whole sum total of human civilization is cave men being forced to learn to face the truth. And trying every trick in the book, bringing every ounce of human imagination and creativity to bear on NOT having to face the truth... and yet at the same time being seduced by the truth. As I look at Crumb's genesis time and again, it's all in there. That struggle between wanting an explanation, wanting the truth, but not being able to take it when the truth asserts itself... and instead having to fabricate, deny, water down, create a con job, or gild the lily.

The capacity of human beings to self-delude is one of the great chapters of our history. And yet when we DO manage, even in small part, to embrace skepticism... to demand or seek proof... civilization takes quantum leaps forward.

Then there's a bunch of scurrying around trying to deny the truths... then grudging acceptance, more dancing around and bullshit, until the next leap forward.

But it seems to get tougher and tougher to stare down the truth. And now we're at a point where we HAVE to bury the truth in increasingly out-there storylines, and soften people up until they get it.

And even when scientists and skeptics can out-and-out prove that stuff is bullshit... it doesn't stop people from embracing that bullshit. Like psychic powers, alien visitors, Bigfoot, whatever.

Justin Bieber is a symbol. A crafted persona. Something that's been seen throughout history as people try to gain power and position. Justin's "magic powers" are his appeal. Taking whatever musical talent he has, and reaching his audience with whatever lies and fantasies allow them to hold the truth and reality of young men at bay, and replace it with a fantasy version of the young man.
 
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Justin Bieber is a symbol. A crafted persona. Something that's been seen throughout history as people try to gain power and position. Justin's "magic powers" are his appeal. Taking whatever musical talent he has, and reaching his audience with whatever lies and fantasies allow them to hold the truth and reality of young men at bay, and replace it with a fantasy version of the young man.


The High Priest of Dumb Ass. You know, I can buy that.

Al-Qaeda doesn't have to blow up anything substantial. They need merely nudge The West at this point in order to topple it. Men are becoming scarce. I think there was a "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode where Picard and crew visit a planet dominated by women. All the men were little high-pitched subservient mousy creatures dressed in somewhat feminine attire. Good sci-fi, but that's the Progressive ideal. That's where The West is going and already is to a large extent.

It's terribly difficult to speak about this anywhere but here, because it's so easy to be misunderstood. But I think it was Bill Maher who got into trouble for saying that the Islamic terrorists were brave. The truth is, some of the ultra-poor, ultra-gullible, ultra-stupid operatives (the ones who can be talked into wearing suicide vests) are simply desperate. Their desperation overcomes their fear. But that doesn't describe them all. Many of them are warriors for their cause. They look at The West, and things such as Justin Bieber, and it is as if they were looking at aliens.

In order to slaughter people wholesale, you have to be able to tokenize them. And to be honest, much of what now calls itself The West is as foreign to me as it is to al-Qaeda. One could perhaps argue that Justin Bieber is just the latest version of The Beatles. But John, Paul, George, and Ringo were not complete dullards. They were an icon of many things, but not stupidity.

Islam is the fastest growing religion, and what is left of Christianity is veering substantially towards Marxism-socialism. For lack of a better term, The West is turning girly-man while Islam is manning up. The West can barely defend itself anymore and won't defend itself against Islam. I’m not advocating violence or male dominance, but in The West that Star Trek "utopia" is fast approaching. Consider the irony that The West, which is supposed to be like the Godfather to all the poorer nations and "spread the wealth" to them, has to bail itself out. One of the jewels of The West – Greece – had to be bailed out. The Western lifestyle of today – politically, socially, and morally – is unsustainable. In short, girly-man doesn't work.

My solution, of course, is to vote out the nitwits, homeschool your kids (if you can't get the concept of school vouchers to pass), educate yourself, and read the classics. But we in The West are in some serious trouble. We no longer believe in ourselves. And for the most part, we're no longer being taught about the value of our own culture. We are right now watching the disintegration of our way of life.

And I say this not because of one lone High Priest of Dumb Ass. But the fact is, he's not alone. There have always been teen idols, I suppose. But this is more than teen idol at play. In The West, the only refuge left for the male is being as good of a girly-man as he can be, and a stupid one at that. And stupid can never protect or spread itself unless it's the stupid of brute violence. But the stupid we're talking about is wimp-stupid.

It's isn't al-Qaeda we have to worry about. We already have an al-Qaeda of sorts in our midst. The only reason al-Qaeda is disproportionately dangerous is because the al-Qaeda in our midst is defenseless against the other kind. And I will not name that al-Qaeda because I've said too much already. But you can call it political correctness. You can call it radical feminism. You can call it socialism. You can call it Cultural Marxism. It is many things.

And this is one war Islam will win. They will win Europe first. And if things keep going as they are, they can take America without a fight. It really is a big deal when and if Iran gets the bomb. Remember how girly-man Spain folded like a cheap tent when conventional weapons were used against them? We live in interesting times. For all intents and purposes, Justin Bieber is a psychological attempt, at least in part, to raise to the level of noble what is little more than capitulation, stupidity, cowardice, and moral torpor.
 
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Oh, and it's no coincidence you mentioned Spain. They're ready to collapse just like Greece.

What's IRONIC about Spain, is that it was a muslim country for a good 8 centuries of its history. And that's one of the things al-Qaida points to as its pet peeves. Their panties are in a twist because a one-time center of the muslim universe was re-conquered by catholics back in the 15th century.

I don't know if you've ever been to Spain, but it's a culture now that has totally embraced its islamic heritage. Er, in an almost theme-park kind of way, though. They have dress-up parades, festivals, they celebrate art and culture and their arab-inspired food. And yet the number of muslims continues to grow. New mosques are being created.

And yet the truth is, most of the muslims never left. A bunch of wealthy ones may have emigrated to North Africa after the reconquista, but most people just converted to Christianity. Just as their ancestors had folded like a cheap tent to islam in the 7th century.

It'll be interesting to see who converts to what as Europe fragments yet again.

What's different this time, is that Islam is not fighting any wars. Rather, islamic extremism is infecting other cultures like a virus. People who want a fantasy medieval prince-of-persia like islam to take over the world. A restoration of the Caliphate. But who are ya gonna elect Caliph? Osama? Good luck.

What's interesting about Osama is that to him, the fight against the West is all about manning up. Live in caves, don't put ice in your drink... stay away from degenerate Western crap that pollutes your brain and makes you soft. You should be tough, hard, and read the Qur'an all day. Suffer, and then blow yourself up, and THEN you'll get all the pussy and "worldly" pleasures you want.

When Greeks riot because of "Austerity measures"... you have to wonder how people like that are going to fare against guys who basically wrote the book on austerity measures. In the past, if the austerity guys were invading the soft, civilized guys, the austere guys won.

Ann Coulter was on O'Reilly last night and stopped Bill dead in his tracks with the following truism: Liberals will ALWAYS line up with Barbarians against civilization. Every time. They're the first to belly roll. If aliens came down to attack, to herd us up to feast on our bones, liberals would be the first to embrace our alien overlords, and help them choose the tastiest, fattest republicans. She says she wrote about all this in her book "Treason."

They're simply pro-terrorist now, because they fear and respect violence, and they'll always line up on the side of what they fear, rather than choosing to fight against it.
 
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Given the demographic advance of Islam in Europe and the de jure advance of sharia in Europe (the Geert Wilders blasphemy trial) and de facto in America (Comedy Central’s and Yale University Press’s submission to Islamic proscriptions on representations of Mohammed), you wonder why excitable types like Faisal Shahzad are so eager to jump the gun. The Islamization of the West proceeds apace; why draw attention to it and risk a backlash?

Because the reactions of Bloomberg & Co. are a useful glimpse into the decayed and corroded heart of a civilization. One day the bomb will explode. Dozens dead? Hundreds? Thousands? Would we then restrict immigration from certain parts of the world? Or at least subject them to extra roadblocks on the fast-track to citizenship?

What do you think?

I see, as part of the new, culturally sensitive warmongering, that the NATO commander in Afghanistan is considering giving out awards to soldiers for “courageous restraint.” Maybe we could hand them out at home, too. Hopefully not posthumously.


And, Jesus, thalo, do you have to turn every thread into a screed on The Left?
 
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And, Jesus, thalo, do you have to turn every thread into a screed on The Left?

LMFAO! Yes. Just on the off chance brother Markle will check in. I know how he loves that.

I know, I should have kept on topic. Namely, how Justin is so DREAMY.

The best thing about his SNL performance, is how Tina Fey (a mom with a 14 year old daughter) was falling all over herself over Justin. They did some great skits about it. These are pretty funny.
 
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I've been going through the movie thread the last few days grabbing some reviews, removing the f-bombs, doing a bit of re-writing and adding of details, and reposting them on Facebook. There's a lot of stuff in there and a lot of conversations. I sort of miss Brother Markle. We had fun talking about movies. But it's apparently all my fault for playing Mystery Leftist Theatre with all that stuff and making references to the culture and politics at large. Fine. I can be obnoxious. I don't believe I've ever denied that.

But the thing is, I wasn't wrong. It may hurt to have one's delusions buffeted, but we're now in the midst of going trillions into debt to prop up the leftist "vision of the anointed," as Thomas Sowell calls it. Okay, I'm an ass, but I'm an ass who wasn't wrong and still am not wrong.

One of the guys on Facebook just thinks I'm funny when I mix my politics with movies. He doesn't share my politics but also doesn't go ballistic about it. I'm sure the rest of them think I'm nuts, but I do think quite a few of them read my stuff while nodding their heads in silent approval.

Right now the Justin Bieber thing is a mix of many influences, as you would surely say yourself. But one of the pervasive influences is the "friendly fascism" that Brother Jonah speaks of. Think back to Nazi Germany (or any stage of Germany). It's historically a very masculine-based culture. It's regimented. It wasn't about everyone sitting around whining about their feelings. It wasn't about the height of civilization being about how many vacation days you had and everything being "free." And, it must be said, they swung the pendulum too far over to one side. I don't want to live in a macho-dominated culture. Such places tend to be violent and bereft of many of the more cultured things in life.

But the other end is this feminine-dominated society we are marching towards. That's the "friendly fascism" state where we are nannied into submission. As Goldberg and others have noted, we're not going the "1984" route, which is the more violent route of Soviet Communism. No, we're going the "Brave New World" route where we are sedated into serfdom. Hardships (and thus freedom to choose) are removed one by one until there is very little difference between our will and the state's will. Bieber and his stupid hair are partially a symptom of that. It's a girl-dominated society, or leaning that way.

Women are obsessed with safety and removing hardships. They are obsessed with gathering as many resources to themselves so as to demand security. And if it can be said that men's less wuss attitudes toward fear and adventure often lead them toward violence, we must also admit that women's insane desire to vanquish all hardship is probably our main obstacle to freedom and prosperity today. The feminine attitude playing out today is contrary to the ideal of the rugged individual and thus inherently contrary to freedom. This is our internal al-Qaeda and this attitude dominates our politics right now. And it's costing us trillions. Gone is the male influence of "bucking up," of pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. Good god, how badly we could use a little Prussian discipline. And that's a great contrast you drew between the austerity measures of The West and those of zealous Islamic religious factions (although the feminine faction is no less zealous).

There's a part of me that understands why these Muslims (zealots or otherwise) would scoff at us. We are taking the fruits of the enlightenment and shoving them up our asses for pleasure with little regard for anything else and we look quite silly doing it. And we will fall to the cultures whose beliefs run deeper than "It's George Bush's fault." Sorry, but it's true.

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By the way, spank you very much for posting that SNL sketch. I had not heard him sing before and now my brain is infected with that chipmunk-sound of yute. Funny thing is about them chipmunk vocals. They sound the same whether from a girl or from a guy, whether black or whether white. It's that chipmunk helium sound. Horrible no matter who does it, but worse when a girly-man (girly-boy) does it.
 
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Let me see if I can get the right intonation of a vexed 13-year-old girl:

I hate you! I hate you! I hate you!

There. That's wasn't bad. Thanks to you, thalo, now everywhere I go I see Justin Bieber. I was in various public places today and all I saw were young yutes who looked like Justin Bieber. All over. They're multiplying like rabbits, assuming these girly-things can actually reproduce.
 
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There is something so dead-on about that second skit... the one where the mom is cooler than her daughter, who is a clingy, emotionally needy, arrested-development type. The mom tries desperately to socialize the kid... but the kid would rather spend time with the mom. Brilliant.
 
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let's hope they don't sell Justin Bieber gas-cans and matches, when a few hello kitty panties out there decide that "one less lonely girl" means Justin wants them to off themselves.
 
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