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Master Baiter
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OK, I've about had it with the way Extensis Suitcase massacres the startup of certain programs in OS X. Particularly Word. But it happens with AOL for OS X too. Some programs can't seem to handle it when you are using a font managment utility, which 99.999% of pro users must--I repeat must--do.

And this is after turning off all the stupid WYSIWYG font menu stuff. There's still problems in general when you ask a font Management app to do a man's work. Of the people who use and actually like OS X, I'd seriously like to know how many of them use Suitcase. OK, in the time it took me to write this, and stop to talk on the phone and drink some coffee... Word finally launched. Took about four minutes of beachball. And I don't even have that many fonts loaded, maybe 30. God forbid there's ever a screeching deadline.

I've never really used Font Reserve, and in the old days, ATM was only there for its superior antialiasing routines. I've been a Suitcase user for many years. Suitcase 10 in OS 9 is about the best it's ever been. I can't tell you how I love being able to preview. But bring it to OS X, and it causes all kinds of trouble. I'm not really sure it's Extensis' fault here. It's certainly partly their fault, but I'm guessing that Mac OS X doesn't like it when you use Suitcase to manage fonts.
 
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Word count: 248

Nothing to see here, folks. Keep movin' along.

What, you never had font problems in OS 9?

Some programs can't seem to handle it when you are using a font managment utility, which 99.999% of pro users must--I repeat must--do.

Some of us are pros even if we use only one font with which to write a novel or thesis. You graphics guys think the sun shines out of your butts.

OK, in the time it took me to write this, and stop to talk on the phone and drink some coffee... Word finally launched. Took about four minutes of beachball.

So what? Launch it once and then just keep it open. OS X is very efficient about using its swap file and there is little penalty for just keeping stuff open in the background.
 
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I think I'm going to cry.

Brother Brad, thank you so much for trying to make me feel at home here. Oh how I've missed this. Unfortunately I've ranted myself blue already doing the intro site stuff and the lexicon you suggested (when you click on the crap-settling icon on the home page)

Yes, graphics guys do think the sun shines out of their butts. Guilty. But even people with bad attitudes need good software.

I do keep Word running, that is until it unexpectedly quits, or I am forced to restart. It's definitely a Suitcase issue, because if I launch Word FIRST, it's fine.
 
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Unfortunately I've ranted myself blue already doing the intro site stuff and the lexicon you suggested (when you click on the crap-settling icon on the home page)

Seethruphilia: The love of over/misuse of transparency in Aqua.

LMAO.

Bradism: When you have nothing of substance to say then make them laugh so hard that they hurt.

Enterblamement: the online joy of blaming others for things that are our own fault (guilty as charged)
 
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LOL

I came to realize I didn't even installed Suitcase or Font Reserve after I put Jaguar at home.

Why?

Simple: Any freelance job I need to do in that machine means an instant reboot in OS 9. :-)
 
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That's pretty much my story... I'm living in two worlds... OS 9 for work, and Jaggy for play/beta-testing/getting upset. OS 9 is still the pro environment as far as I'm concerned. I am able to work somewhat in OS X, I try despite the total suffering it causes me with slowness and bad interface and font rendering. And even then, I'd be dead meat without two things: Suitcase and Quickeys. I couldn't even imagine trying to deal with OS X without a font manager.

Those are two utilities that Apple should have built in to its software a very long time ago.

I almost never use Quark from Classic anymore. Any significant Quark job, I reboot. OS 9 is like coming home every time. Warts and all, it gets the job done better. I must not be alone, considering the price on the street of USED dual-boot machines. That means high demand, and high demand means people don't like OS X. It's been quite a while since I bought any new hardware.

If you need a lot of fonts loaded, OS X can't handle it. It's good for a penny, not good for a pound. One of my worst-case-scenario tests was a side-by-side of the two OSs running with a scary number of fonts. OS 9 didn't blink, X got flaky.

It makes me crazy that OS X conceived something like the font panel, which is a pretty good idea in and of itself, based on the idea of sets... but then doesn't let you go ahead and selectively load or unload those sets. Too much potential for confusing the OS... which I manage to confuse and trip up at every turn.
 
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